Teaching Leadership
Scout's Honor (from Forbes.com)Matthew Kirdahy, 09.04.07,
6:00 PM ET
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too often it's those without integrity who make the headline news. When
corporate scandals break, no one really ever hears much about the "boy
scouts" of business, or those who play by the rules.
Maybe it's time more people did. And from what better source then the new top Scout, Robert Mazzuca?
Labor Day weekend marked Mazzuca's first days as the Boy Scouts of
America chief scout executive. The job is as demanding as any faced by
a corporate CEO, requiring extensive knowledge of an organization 1.2
million volunteers strong. Replacing Roy Williams, who retired after
seven years in the post, Mazzuca also will be responsible for 7,000
employees and 304 councils across the country.
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Mazzuca is a seasoned veteran, having spent 36 years as a
professional in the Boy Scouts. He recalled how he got started in a
camp in Northern California decades ago, long before MySpace replaced
the campfire, before the Internet replaced the outdoors.
Those were simpler days, he says, when some of the most powerful men
in the modern corporate world learned their unshakable values--values
Mazzuca promised some of these Scouts are still swearing by today. He
named a few: Rex Tillerson, chairman of Exxon Mobil,
Drayton McClain, owner of Major League Baseball's Houston Astros;
Secretary of Defense Bob Gates--who had to abdicate his role on the BSA
Board to serve the country--and Jim Rohr, PNC Bank's chief executive
and one of Mazzuca's closest friends.
"These are corporate giants who understand the value of a workforce
that has integrity," Mazzuca said. "A workforce that has the capacity
for leadership and a workforce that isn't going to steal the
paperclips, for Pete's sake."
As chief scout, Mazzuca's focus is on the future and molding more
Tillersons and Rohrs. In particular, he's eyeing the 100th anniversary
celebration along with an updated approach to attracting fresh Scouts,
who have extracurricular options like never before.
Mazzuca sees the job of chief scout as the "preserver, protector and enhancer of the brand."
Forbes.com: What's the transition into the top spot in the
Boy Scouts of America been like after serving the organization for 36
years?
Robert Mazzuca: Roy Williams and I have a good
relationship, and it allowed me to spend some time this summer
traveling around and meeting with some stakeholders building some
consensus around some ideas that I have going forward. While he minded
the store, it was really very good and very pleasant, and I appreciate
it. I thought going into it that I would not like it, but it worked out
really, really well.
You seldom hear about the Boy Scouts of America "executives"
or what goes on behind the scenes with guys in your position. When
people think of the organization they think local. Why don't we hear
about the chief scout executive?
Our goal is to make these volunteers successful and to get out of
the way. Because when you think about the multiplying effect of staff
people who recruit, train and then motivate the courage to support in
volunteers; they, in turn, deliver the program. That is the magic of
scouting.
As the newly appointed chief scout executive, what do you plan to do differently to draw more Scouts to the organization?
We have to become more effective in the use of technology and in the
whole world of cyberspace. MySpace, YouTube--places like that where
kids spend an inordinate amount of time engaging with each other and
engaging with ideas. We have not been particularly effective in being
creative in that arena and my goal short-term and intermediate term is
the drive to understand that world to the point where we could actually
participate in the dialogue that happens there.
However, the magic of scouting begins outdoors. Challenging them
both physically and mentally teaches them leadership skills. You can't
do that in a virtual environment. But if where they are right now is in
that virtual world, then the best chance of having them come with us on
this adventure in the outdoors is to figure out how to deal in that
world.
What are some of the challenges the organization faces in
getting young men into the classic outdoor activities the Boy Scouts
are known for, and then keep their interest?
We have an epidemic of childhood obesity in our country. And I think
a large part of that has to do with the sedentary nature of our
children's lives today. A lot of that has to do with them being in
front of a keyboard or in front of some sort of electronic engagement.
The highly competitive, good athletes will always find a place to
exercise that highly competitive skill. But in the real world most kids
are not highly competitive, good athletes. They're just kids. They want
to be kids. They need an opportunity to be kids and the opportunity to
exercise. It's things like scouting that we're going to have to rely on
if we're going to have healthy children.
Once we get them, they stay interested.
How do you keep the interest of young men when there are so many other extracurricular activities to choose from?
Our biggest problem frankly isn't so much an issue of getting kids
involved, but we have to be able to articulate our message better to
parents who make decisions about how they and their children are going
to engage with their time. Our objective is to help parents make
rational and intelligent decisions.
We're not a recreational organization. Our goal is not to teach kids
how to build fires and pitch tents. That's the laboratory in which we
do the things that we do, which have to do with character and
leadership and all the things that scouting brings to a young kid's
formation.
What's planned for the 100th anniversary of the organization in 2010?
This is the absolute quintessential opportunity to reintroduce
scouting to the American people. I really believe that we're making a
huge mistake as an organization if all we do is celebrate our past. If
we don't use this as an opportunity to put a stake in the ground and
proclaim our future, we've missed it completely.
We have mission-driven projects ramping up now, encouraging every
community in America to celebrate in their own way, but around the same
messages we're trying to accomplish.
I have this vision that I am secretly unleashing. We need to
re-engage our alumni. There are millions and millions of people
involved in scouting and who've had a wonderful experience in scouting.
I have this vision of the largest gathering of Eagle Scouts in the
history of mankind on The Mall in Washington, D.C., prior to the
jamboree, where we invite every Eagle Scout to come and rededicate
themselves to the principles of scouting in 2010.
To that end, we're launching a major Eagle Scout search. Say we want a few "bald eagles." We want to bring them home.
What's been the most exciting for you about a career in Scouts?
To me the whole adventure has been because of the lapel pin that you
wear, not because of you personally, but because of what you represent,
in every community that we've been and every town we visit. You show up
in the middle of the night, unpack, and the next day you're there
working for the Boy Scouts. You have access to the best and the
brightest in town. Every place we've been we've been able to work with
the finest.
I can sit in the office of the chairman of Exxon Mobil [Rex
Tillerson] and talk about scouting. I mean how cool is that? You should
hear him talk about how the principals of scouting are what guides his
life.
Do you think being a Scout has had any impact on these powerful figures in corporate America as far as the way they do business?
These CEOs recognize not only the value to them personally of being
involved, but these are corporate giants who understand the value of a
workforce that has integrity, a workforce that has the capacity for
leadership, a workforce that isn't going to steal the paperclips, for
Pete's sake.
People who come through scouting know that the principles we work
with are really valuable principles. If you want to be a good parent,
just live by the scout oath and law. You want to be a good employee,
live by the scout oath and law. You want to be a good CEO, live by the
scout oath and law.
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